FDA Action on Vicodin May Mean More Pain, Not Less Addiction or Overdose

Stricter rules for prescribing opioids may not be the only answer to curbing addiction to painkillers

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(UPDATED) Last week, a Food and Drug Administration (FDA) advisory panel voted to impose stricter controls on prescriptions for drugs like Vicodin, which contain the opioid pain reliever hydrocodone.  The new rules would ban prescribing of more than a month’s supply of hydrocodone-containing drugs and prevent refills without a new doctor visit. Prescriptions would not be allowed to be phoned, faxed or emailed and physician’s assistants and nurse practitioners wouldn’t be permitted to prescribe the medications in the states in which they have limited prescribing powers.

Citing growing concern about prescription drug misuse and the potential for addiction to painkillers — overdoses lead to 15,000 deaths annually — the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) has long pushed for the stringent rules, which would reclassify opioid pain relievers as Schedule II drugs, the most restricted category short of being prohibited. The FDA is likely to accept the panel’s decision, changing the rules for some 47 million patients who receive prescriptions for hydrocodone-containing products annually.

“I believe that this change will mark a turning point in the epidemic,” Dr. Andrew Kolodny, the founder of a group called Physicians for Responsible Opioid Prescribing (PROP), told NPR. “It will lead to less people becoming addicted, which is the most important thing that needs to happen to bring this crisis under control.”  PROP has petitioned the FDA to tighten the official labeling on opioids, which critics say would result in even more severe restrictions.  But Kolodny says that their intent has been “misinterpreted” and they do not want to see legitimate access reduced.*

However, according to numerous studies and government statistics the majority of those who become addicted to opioids don’t get hooked after receiving legitimate prescriptions from doctors for pain treatment. More than two-thirds of people who used opioids  recreationally in 2010-2011 obtained the medications from friends or relatives for free, mostly with their permission.  And, of people in treatment for chronic pain without a prior history of drug problems, a Cochrane review found that less than 1% became addicted to the medication, with 44% dropping out of treatment due to side effects from the drugs.

Similarly, most fatal overdoses do not seem to involve people taking their medications as prescribed for pain — one study in hard-hit West Virginia analyzed medical examiner records and drug treatment data and found that 95% of victims had signs of addiction, such as snorting or injecting drugs meant to be taken orally and combining these prescriptions with illegal drugs.  Only 44% had a prescription that was written for them.  Another study, in Utah, relied on family member reports and found that more than half of victims had misused the drugs.  Since most opioid overdose deaths actually involve mixtures of drugs— typically including alcohol, which patients are warned not to drink — misuse significantly increases the risk of dying from abusing the medications.

The new rules would likely make it harder for those who rely on opioids to treat chronic pain for conditions like multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia, certain genetic disorders and some severe injuries (the kind of pain that often lasts decades) to get their prescriptions filled. Many doctors already decline to treat chronic pain with opioids, fearing prosecution if some of their patients turn out to be addicted to the painkillers and are faking pain, or end up overdosing.  Those who can get treatment are already subjected to random pill counts and urine tests to ensure they are taking their pills as directed and as needed.

Under the new rules, some patients may even lose access to treatment entirely because insurers may not cover the monthly doctor visits required for continued prescribing or because doctors may not want to deal with the added hassle. Many pharmacies also refuse to carry Schedule II drugs. Nursing homes already report problems with other opioid drugs in Schedule II, as patients are forced to wait for pain relief for an unavailable physician to update a prescription. And, with non-physicians in rural areas unable to prescribe, patients may be switched to weaker and less effective drugs in Schedule III.

But the restrictions likely won’t have a drastic change on the number of prescriptions for those with acute pain that ends shortly after procedures like routine surgeries and root canals. And some data suggests that these pills are a source of considerable misuse: because these conditions resolve quickly, many patients won’t finish an entire prescription but will keep the remaining pills “just in case,” making them potentially available to teens or others at risk for addiction.

MORE: Dentists, Too, Can Help Battle Painkiller Addiction

As part of the FDA’s two-day hearing on the reclassification, pain patients and their families submitted poignant testimony pleading with the agency to not construct more hurdles to receiving proper pain care.  One man wrote of his wife:

She is in excruciating pain every minute of every day of her life for the past twenty years. [The pain was caused] by a butcher of a doctor who drilled a pin through her radial nerve during a routine operation to fix a broken wrist. He left the pin in, despite her pleading of pain for six weeks. To take the pain pills away from her would lead to her death from suicide because the pain would be unbearable.

Another chronic pain patient wrote, “[W]ithout the medicine I am being prescribed, I would not be able to work and would end up on disability. A third pleaded simply, “Nonono. This does not help all of us who deal with chronic pain. I am sick and tied of addicts screwing up MY health care. Find another way!”

Finding another way, is, unfortunately, exactly what addicts tend to do when faced with these kinds of barriers, which may lead them to take more dangerous illegal substances. A recent letter in the New England Journal of Medicine found that when a substance was added to Oxycontin to deter abuse, only 13% of prescription drug abusers continued to rely on the drug as a primary high, down from 36%. Heroin use among them, however, doubled.

And some who opposed the changes noted in testimony to the FDA panel that Oxycontin, a stronger painkiller containing oxycodone, which is similar to morphine, has always been subject to the stricter Schedule II prescribing rules, yet it is widely abused and credited with launching the opioid prescription drug epidemic. While we don’t know what effect the new restrictions will have, we do know that the changes alone won’t address the reasons why some people seek opioids in the first place.  Chronic pain patients should not have to suffer to fight other people’s addictions.

MORE: Government Considers Overdose Antidote, Naloxone, to Fight Prescription Drug Misuse

*Updated to include quote from Kolodny on PROP’s intent.

81 comments
Junior'sGhost
Junior'sGhost

It doesn't surprise me when I hear people are fleeing the U.S. because of medical issues. This for-profit, free-market health care system is destroying the lives of millions of Americans. Medical emigration from this country is becoming a more popular option by the day. It's sickening both literally and figuratively. It's corporatist greed, plain and simple. And because it's corporatist it can also literally be called fascism. Welcome to Fascist America. Now go on and suffer like a good little patriot.

NicoleM
NicoleM

Hi! If you haven't already signed, I encourage everyone of you suffering due to the under treatment of your pain to sign the petition to congress. The link: http://www.petition2congress.com/5202/first-do-no-harm-dea-targets-physicians-who-treat-their-patients/         or you can Google: petition2congress First Do No Harm      Whether you are suffering or love someone who is, this really needs not be a silent battle anymore. We are good hard working people who just want to work and not collect a disability check. Thank you

djsthrift
djsthrift

Well they did it. Now what am I supposed to do? I am uninsured, have been with my doctor for SIX years with legitimate pain issues. WHO is going to pay for these increased doctor visits? Who is going to pay for my new doctor because my neurologist can only write schedule 3's? Who is going to pay my cash costs for the increased urine drug tests? WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE ME???

jnb19832002
jnb19832002

ok guys, so what legal recourse is there for us with chronic legitimate pain? lets start that conversation. Please. We need to come together and protest the right way, but not until we fully understand all the legal angles of this problem. I am currently seeking this info, however, it is not easy to do. Most lawyers, doctors, etc. dont want us to know this. Anybody have any comments on this?? please feel free to contact me directly if you would like to share some much needed information on this. UNITED WE STAND>>>jnb19832002@yahoo.com or 415-756-0955. Im not worried about being too busy to see this through to the end. thanks

bodyguyliny
bodyguyliny

I dont know what's going on now with all the pain management DRs cutting their patients scripts but from what I understand, the DEA and the government is now putting pressure on all pain management DRs to cut every patient's scripts. ANYONE who is on opiod pain killers, cancer patients, cronic pain, nerve damage, herniated discs, ANYTHING you have, it doesn't matter. Your scripts will be cut. Terminal cancer patients who are on their death beds and screaming in pain are being cut. THIS IS WHAT THE GOVERNMENT has come up with to combat the illegal use of prescription pain killers. 

I have a rare spinal condition called Arachnoiditis. My nerves in my lower back are stuck together and twisted inside of my spinal canal. On top of this non-treatable, non-curable dreaded problem I also have 3 degenerated discs and I had a failed lower back surgery which resulted in a spinal fluid leak and the shifting of my hardware (screws & plates). I had seizures 3 days after surgery and was screaming in pain so loud that I lost the hearing in my right ear for 2 days. That happened back in 2005 and ever since, I have been in chronic severe pain. My P/M DR put me on OxyContin which helped me maintain a somewhat normal life considering I could barely move. The problem with this spinal condition is that it isn't studied by any large R&D companies or Universities because it's rare. There is no known treatments or cures and what little information there is out there on it is basically all short and to the point. No cure, no treatment, very painful, gets worse with time, only known treatment is pain medication to control the level of pain so as not to go insane. 

EVEN WITH THIS DREADED SPINAL CONDITION, MY MEDS HAVE BEEN CUT. So far I have been cut twice, removing my mid-day dose all together. I now only have a morning dose and an evening dose, both which are smaller than they were for all the years I have been on meds. My pain level has risen to the point that I now cry myself to sleep 3 or 4 nights a week, and can not sleep more than an hour or 2 a night because laying in one position for too long aggravates the problem. The government has my DR so shook up and scared that he may lose his practice that he has flat out told me he no longer wants me as his patient...and this is after i have been seeing him for 11 years. He said he knows how much pain I'm in, he understands my situation and basically, he can't do anything about it any more. When I became aggravated at this new attitude, he quickly told me that if I talked to him with hostility he would drop me immediately. 

This is how the medical world is treating people now. I basically got a BIG, SOLID, F*** U. right in the face. I'm sorry you're in pain but there is nothing I can do to help you anymore, Deal with the pain. This is how the government is dealing with the street drug problems...cut the people who need the meds, so there are less meds on the street. That makes about as much sense as going sky diving without a parachute. As if that will work too. The government has yet to learn from it's mistakes. 15 years ago there was a huge thing about over-the-counter ephedrine products. All over-the-counter ephedrine products were taken off the shelves because they were the basic ingredient in making crystal meth. AND WHAT WAS THE END RESULT? The Meth problem in this country EXPLODED. Now the Meth problem is coast to coast and 100 times bigger than it was...WHY?? because the government still hasn't learned that there WILL ALWAYS BE BAD PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO DO BAD THINGS TO MAKE FAST MONEY. As soon as the government took ephedrine off the market, the cartels switched from coke to meth and flooded the country. SOUND FAMILIAR? PROHIBITION...100 years ago, same thing. Take booze off the shelves, create Organized Crime and Bootleggers. Our government has only succeeded in making the illegal drug problems in this country WORSE. Now that they have done this to pain killers what do they expect people in pain to do? 


What are our options? People who live in chronic pain are now in a position that has no logical outcome. Our choices are; 1- get meds illegally (creating a bigger street drug problem...sound familiar??) 2- become chemists and figure out how to manufacture the stuff..( i guess the super smart ones might have a chance at this) 3- Suicide. NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE IN PAIN. No one CAN live in severe pain. I ask you all what is worse; becoming addicted to pain killers or living in crippling pain 24/7? Diabetics are chemically addicted to insulin. Take away their insulin and they die. High blood pressure....take away the meds and the heart works itself to explosion. PAIN - it is a documented FACT that severe pain causes high blood pressure, heart attacks, suicidal tendencies, shortens the life span, physically alters a person's appearance due to the large amounts of the wrong hormones and chemicals the body produces while under the stress of pain, STRESS-which we all know causes heart disease and in my case, the more pain I'm in, the more I smoke. I was a non-smoker before this happened to me. Then I became a 1 pack a day smoker. As the pain got worse I went to 2 packs a day. Now that my meds have been reduced so much I am at 3 packs a day. Well I guess the government's brilliant plan will work after all. It's only a short while now until I have a massive heart attack from smoking and drop dead.


WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY? As a kid I always thought that as soon as my generation grew up and became the people in charge, the world would get better. We grew up with rock & roll, pot, acid, woodstock, parties, and more parties. Now I see that it was ok for us as teenagers to go wild & crazy but now that we are adults, we think like our parents did. WAKE UP. The ONLY WAY to combat illegal drugs is to LEGALIZE ALL OF THEM. YES LEGAL. If you want to remove all the harmful things that are killing our children, then we'll have to go much further than drugs. Cars kill more kids than drugs. Cigarettes, booze, violent video games, all major things that kill. The only way to fix the problem is to legalize all drugs, collect taxes on them and make them like booze. Over 21, for recreational use, and let it run it's course. What will this solve? WELL IF YOU ARE A GOOD PARENT THEN YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. TEACH YOUR KIDS. EDUCATE THEM ON HOW ADDICTIVE DRUGS ARE AND HOW THEY CAN RUIN A YOUNG PERSON'S LIFE.  Most teens will do anything they are told not to do. Being ILLEGAL is a major reason they try drugs in the first place. AND MOSTLY...LEGAL OR ILLEGAL..IF THEY WANT TO DO DRUGS, YOU WILL NEVER STOP IT. THEY WILL JUST DO IT LIKE THEY DO NOW. So why not legalize everything and monitor it? Legal drugs means NO MORE STREET GANGS, which means less murders, less guns in the streets, no more kids sneaking behind their parents backs to get drugs and get high. Legal means less street crime, less people in prison, LESS OF A DESIRE TO TO THAT BAD THING KIDS DO TO BE MISCHIEVIOUS. 

Pain Killers are a necessary medication for those of us who are in chronic pain every day every day every day. Don't take them away from us, the people who NEED them. Doing so just creates a whole new set of problems


AdultsShouldTreatOwnPain
AdultsShouldTreatOwnPain

This is awful and flawed in so  many ways.  I will explain why without ambiguity or ignorance and if anybody disagrees with me, you are very very dumb.  First my theory on the reason why in the first place---this new pain med prescription policy is not backed by doctors or the patients that need them ( the only people that are affected by this) ---it is being pushed by the insurance comps and politicians, i.e. lawyers, ex wall street guys, etc. that alone should give you pause right off the bat.  Also, you must look at the timing---obama care is in effect---so lets try to pin point the correlation----money, yes...but how?  Well, now that the tax payers are paying a heavy load for others and without looking at data I figure at least half of all doctor visits are reasons simply to find and eliminate a pain, that's a lot of appts---now that creates income for the hospitals, a lot of income.  And of course the DEA- who I do understand  have a tough job, but man o' man, lets focus on meth, coke u know drugs that will destroy you very quickly and drugs that fund militias in major cities and bordered countries and have no medical purpose what so ever--------- The DEA like all government agencies expand over the long term and income rises so they need this so- called pain med problem to give purpose and effectively lots of funding .  

When I heard that obama care was approved i was happy because I thought the opposite, I thought "great!, since social health care tends to cause over crowding, maybe now, they will treat adults like adults and have US treat our own pain by actually allowing codeine, hydrocodone, etc, over the counter" because It is TOTAL  BS that when I semi tore my rotator cuff  I have to pay a doctor 200 hundred dollars so I can get a 20 dollar pain medicine prescription so I can work---and this happens all the time to people----One may hurt his/her back, which is very common, usually surgery is never needed, and the ONLy treatment is opiate pain meds along with anti inflammitory----so GOD FORBID that we treat our OWN BODY with a remedy that any med layman understands.  As adults it is borderline criminal that we cannot treat our own pain without having to pay a months rent to see a doctor that is going to tell you what you already know---same goes with antibiotics------pathetic system. 


Now those who disagree with this opinion i will say the following-=-----of course there will be abuse of prescrption opiates, but before anybody spouts off that simple talk--i would like you to provide statistics that show percentage of populations which will abuse (BTW there does exist countries that which you can purchase hyrdrocodone and the likes over the counter, hint:  they are the same countries that produce cocaine which is illegal just as the USA laws, and much much cheaper to purchase and  there is far less abuse of THAT drug too in those countries--I am not going to explain the significance of that point but if you cant figure why, it provides very valid arguments that abuse of a drug does not correlate only to the abundance and or legal status)


And some of you will equate opiate pain meds to meth coke pcp --- and try to build an argument with the intention that causes one to trap themselves with contradictions, common way to debate when you have no substance or just very lazy---- For one, opiate pain meds are NOT heroin, there exists many types, ex.  codeine has a 200 mg ceiling limit and is weaker than,say morphine---point being do not lump all opiate pain meds as one---- also, vicodin, codeine, and the few other opiate based pain meds exist on the weaker side of the long spectrum of pain meds (opiate).  Please rethink your opinion if it is based on this silly argument.  


I have more to say,but chew on this for a while 

dthammer1990@gmail.com
dthammer1990@gmail.com

when you are diagnosed with adult scoliosis and your husband is on ssdi and insurance co is telling me i cant have my meds to function............who  will pay for my ssdi? 

katkalkofen
katkalkofen

One quick side note addressing the paragraph that states insurance may not cover monthly visits - I don't know for a fact, but what insurance would do this? I've never had an issue with that and have been on MANY different plans over the years. If the follow-up is required for your condition, they pay for it. Perhaps the article was referring to the "junk" plans some people had, and I would think that this type of behavior from insurance isn't even legal anymore. If your company is doing this, go on the exchange and buy yourself some decent insurance. For those of is with chronic issues - insurance is a MUST and the premium is well worth it in the long run.

I don't live in a small town, but have never come across a pharmacy that doesn't cover schedule II drugs. If you have a Walmart, Walgreens, or Safeway then that's a start right there. I simply cannot imaging a scenario where all Opioids are class II and pharmacies could even afford to keep doors open if they refused carrying Vicodin. How would docs write Rx's after simple surgery? Pharmacies who won't carry things like OxyContin (usually due to theft fear) would be forced to change those policies. I feel that writing that in this article is pushing fear on people un-necessarily. Nobody's going to stop carrying Vicodin...that's silly. :-)

katkalkofen
katkalkofen

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It saddens me to hear that there is discussions of limiting these medications to only those with Cancer. I hope that's not true and trust that those in the pain treatment community (like my doc who is very vocal politically etc.) will fight for our rights as pain patients to be treated. So many other conditions cause excruciating pain and these medications allow people to have somewhat normal lives!

I just hope we can somehow all work together to stand up for the rights of the chronic pain patient, all while trying to come up with constructive solutions to our nations opiate addiction problem. As I said, I feel that monthly visits, pill counts, and urine tests protect us, as patients, and keep us safe. And if they also help prevent abuse by those that are abusing the system (which I believe they do), them I am willing to do them for that cause as well. Deciding which condition can and should be treated with which drug is my doctors job, not the FDA's.

That's my 2 cents. I hope everyone has a blessed, pain-free (or pain controlled) day!

Love and Light to you all. :)

katkalkofen
katkalkofen

As far as monthly appointments are concerned, that in my opinion is being responsible. Your doctor SHOULD be checking in with you. I've worked for docs before and some people would just call and call and call for Vicodin refills - without being seen. I feel that refilling those Rx's is irresponsible on the physicians part. I know it's costly to be seen on a monthly basis, but see it as part of the "gig". Hopefully the ACA will help now with those that were cash-pay before.

Pill counts and urine tests - again...as a former patient on opiods, I feel that this is a good thing for both you and the doctor. When those things start to be "off"...your doctor should immediately address it. And by that I don't mean "fire" you, but figure out what's going on and address it. Sometimes uncontrolled pain (incorrect doses) itself can lead to addictive behaviors. (Taking more then needed...then running out...withdrawals...taking meds a different route then you should so they "work" faster) This ties back to staying current with monthly check-ins and communication with your doctor.

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katkalkofen
katkalkofen

To those of you who are suffering from pain (or know someone who is), I highly suggest finding a Pain Specialist in your area who is also educated in addiction medicine. Most general doctors are more then happy to wash their hands and refer you. The reason I think that a pain doc that specializes in addiction is important is because these drugs can be dangerous and have the potential for addiction! Even if you have a legitimate condition, you never know what you may go through in life and it's very easy to slip into taking them for the wrong reasons - even when you never ever had that intent! I have sat in support groups with professional people in recovery and every single one of them started their addiction due to an injury or chronic pain. It CAN happen and does. An addiction specialist is able to spot those things early, and is trained in treating pain - even for those of is who have made mistakes.

I'm honestly conflicted about these laws. I've lived through the hell of withdrawal and addiction, and also lived with pain on a daily basis. What makes me sad about this is that being able to pick up a phones in script means ONE trip to the pharmacy, not two. Or..not having to sit in a waiting room in pain for God knows how long. That being said, many pain patients are already used to paper scripts, as the meds they are on have required that for ages.

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tushy7070
tushy7070

This is completely wrong for the FDA to do this for patients that really need it. So now we have to stop a drug that we have taken for years for pain and stop cold turkey. YOU are not to stop and medication without speaking with a doctor and then the doctor should write a script for Methadone which is used for heroin addicts so you don't go through withdraw. But that is the only way our body is going to handle this huge change. When and if your doctor writes this RX for you have him or her write on the script that it is for pain control so that way when you go to the pharmacy you won't be embarrassed and your not a heroin addict... Good luck to everyone.

pacogilsner
pacogilsner

I've uses vicodin for 34 years.to the day...I fell into a grain auger..i run out of medicine weekly..do not know what to do...my doctor tells me we need to cut it down,,but yet he does not approve my specialists surgery proposed.. cannot walk with out the darn medicine...what is a person to do..you have to walk in order to work...the doctor wants you off them..yet he wont approve surgery for me to improve my current condition..what do I have left...suicide..i don't know...

SerenaVandever
SerenaVandever

just to clarify, we were told by more than one doctor that soon, only people with cancer will have access to pain medicines!!!!!

SerenaVandever
SerenaVandever

my father was a dea agent and i know without question that marijuana is a medicine, it no schedule one drug as they have it listed as if it has no medicinal value, we now know it can cure cancer not to mention help with many other ailments, so i dont think they are the authority on which drugs are harmful!!  now they want to take my mothers pain meds omg we have gone through so much and finally have her on a good medicine at the right dose and they want to take her quality of life away!!!! to say that people with cancer are the only ones who are in pain, there are many many other illnesses that cause pain besides cancer!!!!  i know, my father the dea agent died of bone cancer caused by agent orange and my mother has battled two different kinds of cancer so i know a little bit about it and a lot about chronic pain i am a type one diabetic with such severe neuropathy i have not been able to work since 2000 any way i know pain, cancer and the dea and they are wrong to think taking our pain meds away is going to help any one those who are addicts will get it any way and the people who really need it are left to live with no quality of life, as if being in pain everyday isnt bad enough, thanks for nothing,

bobmart
bobmart

the FDA and the DEA are govt agencies that waste the citizens tax dollars when it comes to MAJOR decision making about drugs intended for the people who have chronic acute pain and are unable to take nsaids due to asthma related issues. i am a 60 yr. old man with chronic joint pain and degenerative vertebra in my neck and back. i can't find a single physician who will prescribe hydrocodone for the pain anymore. this my message to the FDA and the DEA: Find and rid the country of the real problem drugs and the dealers who are getting our kids and adults alike hooked on them and leave the practice of medicine to the physicians who went through school to be able to practice it.

DeborahNesbit
DeborahNesbit

Having the day I just had with my mother who is over 60 with MS this is just not practical or reasonable. I wish whoever it is at the FDA would come live a day in our shoes. They would think twice about such an unfair recommendation.

If someone is in chronic pain, asking them to navigate the healthcare system as if they are perfectly healthy is unreasonable and cruel. I don't know what my mother would do if she did not have me to be an advocate for her. I fear for the people who don't have a bitchy daughter to do the dirty work for them. Just getting dressed, getting to the doctor, navigating the parking, getting into the office, getting a prescription to the pharmacy, getting it picked up again - this is an all day proposition or MORE! for someone who is disabled. The planning involved to carry all this out with a modicum of dignity only to be treated like a pain seeking criminal is an immense and humiliating ordeal, not to mention being "tracked" by everyone from the primary care physician, to the pain clinic, to the pharmacy and the eye in the sky, Big Brother Medicare and her other insurance agency.

Throw in an additional problem like her recent hearing loss and it becomes impossible. The people who institute these laws simply do not THINK. Not with their heads and certainly not with their hearts. The idea of making it harder than it already is for my mother and the many others to get medicine is unconscionable.

Not to mention that all of this is big give away to the medical industry in additional doctor's visits, payments from insurance companies and co-pays and the increased cost of having to buy medicine in smaller quantities more frequently versus being able to buy larger amounts for less.

If it doesn't make you angry it certainly makes me angry: the Republicans go on and on about not putting the government between the doctor and patient and their healthcare decisions, but this level of bureaucracy does exactly that.

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Jcc343
Jcc343

I agree that Chronic pain patients should not have to pay for other peoples' misuse of these substances. This is also true among any of the Pharmaceutical drugs that produce a high, such as Amphetamines, Benzo's, etc. Unfortunately, those who abuse substances generally have some deep, subconscious void in their life that meds can sometimes help for the time being. I don't think anyone is an addict just for the sake of being unable to stop; every time you target addiction as its own medical prob;em, it rarely works. The  psychological need to abuse substances is still present, and needs to truly be evaluated and overcome in order to break their habit. Its sad, but I myself have had my fair share of "drug abuse" throughout the past couple years, but It mostly stemmed from feelings of loneliness, inadequacy, and overall emptiness in my life. I think there needs to be a new system in place to allow both proper and "recreational" use of substances. I put recreational in quotations because I truly feel that substance dependency usually is more of a self-soothing process than a light-hearted attempt to have a good time here and there. But, as I said, I think most drugs should be available in a clinical setting, so that supervised, limited dosages can be administered professionally, and both group and single therapy sessions could be established with the intent of finding and managing the roots of the person's "addiction."

alfredbjam
alfredbjam

Thank God I live in a government that knows what's best for me and everyone else in chronic pain!!

zakaveli9
zakaveli9

I have a fractured thumb that kills when I write for more than 1 minute.  It healed incorrectly because different doctors gave different opinions in regard to surgery.  I also have carpal tunnel in both wrists and bursitis, tendonitis in both elbows and a ruptured disc caused by injuries and degenerative disc disorder.  I am stiff and in pain every morning in my lower back and it progressively gets worse as the day goes on.  If I couldn't get my pain pills I would be on the couch most of the day, except to go to the bathroom.  I originally just went in for chronic thumb pain but repetitive use of typing and sitting certain ways and years of sports activity, the rest of my body is worn down.  It's tough now to get adequate medicine in terms of volume.  Thankfully my doctor can still fax in my Norco refills because he is 30 minutes away.  More regulation is hardly ever the right answer especially when dealing with one's physical well-being.  The government just wants more control for more taxes.  Sign of the times.   

davidj980
davidj980

What organization or group of citizens are pushing back on this? Does anyone know?  If you give me a name, I will join it and get political. Pushing back can work. Marijuana is a schedule 1 DEA drug and two states have pushed forward to legalizing it for recreational use, which in this context is really ironic when you think about it. Wouldn't be laughable that in 100 years after these draconian laws are in place people realize that they could risk breaking law  and grown their own opium poppies in their basements and start a movement that will legalize opium and its derivatives as medicine.



alfredbjam
alfredbjam

They have already taken out the extra ingredient in the Watson Hydrocodone and put some sort of additive in it, just like the additive stuff they put in darvocet's to make people feel worse so they wouldn't take them till they were taken off the market from lack of use. A year ago or so they were thinking of taking hydros off  the market but decided to pollute them instead, to sneak one over on us, but people that really hurt can tell what's going on. I suffer tremendously and I have been for the last twenty years, the governments drug wars are ridiculous . Why must I suffer? This is beyond me. There are so many illegal drugs now and they can't control them why would they take our pain meds off the market or ruin them unless the government is selling illegal drugs themselves and would rather people go buy the drugs there selling which is probably what the government uses to keep from going bankrupt but I digress. It's just the way I see it.

easy.does.it.genovese
easy.does.it.genovese

Well did you ever think HOW the heroin gets into the Country? The little man is the one normally getting arrested and doing the time. The "czars" seldom get busted and the ones flying the plane and operating the ship never gets busted. Hmm. So, make these laws stricter and stricter so people who are suffering so horribly will get to the point where they have in their mind, two choices. Live but go above and beyond to get of pain or commit suicide. I already know of not one but TWO suicides just this all this has happened. They were NOT tapered off and weaned off the medication they had been taking for over a decade and all of the sudden placed on something much much less potent to handle that type of pain so in combination of the normal pain that they were forced to faced everyone, it was dramatically exacerbated by horrible withdrawl symptoms since they did not taper them off AT ALL! Not one bit! It was just BAM "heres your new medication"! Soooooo, naturally, their body responded to that! As you know, chronic pain for whatever reason it exists, alot of it DOES have to do with the brain. In fact, all of it. Now this DOES NOT reduce the fact that people feel it, but, peoples opiate receptors differ from one another, especially after taking the strongest medication known to man, Fentanyl, for 10 years. He was taking the Fentanyl Patch for 10 years, one patch, every 48 hours, 100mcg/h. They didn't switch him to one patch every 72 hours, or one patch every 48 hours at 75mcg or 50mcg, etc. 

There was absolutely ZERO taper off. None. That hit him like the semi truck that hit him in 1997. He simply couldn't take the withdrawls and then couldn't adjust to feeling that type of pain. So, he shot himself in the head. He left behind a 17 page letter as well. While he took responsibility for making his decision to end his life, he made it clear that he would NOT have made that decision had he not been forced to all of the sudden face that brand of withdrawl and then going off of that suddenly to only taking a 15mg MS Contin (Morphine Sulfate) pill, one every 12 hours and up to two Vicodin a day for "breakthrough" pain. Along with the Fentanyl Patch that he had been taking, he was allowed to take "up to 6" per day, but he seldom did that. He generally was able to keep his Vicodin intake daily to about 3 or 4 a day. Only certain days, like when the barometric pressure was increased outside, or, if he fell down the stairs, would he take 5 or 6 a day of the Vics. 

At every refill date, he always had some Vicodin left over from the month before.Not a bottles worth, but, anywhere from 5 or 6 to sometimes 20-something left over. He was too afraid to admit this, so, he kept it to himself for when and if his meds was taken away, like what happened. Those extra Vicodin he had left over that he somewhat "hoarded" DID COME IN USE, but then, those eventually were gone too. CONTINUED:

easy.does.it.genovese
easy.does.it.genovese

He actually considered takin heroin. He asked a few people that "looked street" if they knew where he could get it. He would take sometimes 50 ibuprophens or acetaminophen to try and cope, knowing that wouldn't do anything but ruin his liver. He was best put, desperate. He decided to start drinking alcohol, in hopes of that allowing him to pass out just to sleep and reduce the pain and withdrawls from the Fentanyl. I would sit on the phone with him for hours, trying to help him through it. I would drive over to his house to help him do things, in the middle of the night, sometimes having to call off work the following day.

His struggle was horrible. He simply couldn't get through the withdrawls. He felt that the NEW prescription that he was getting still wouldn't work to cover and control his pain to a bearable level even once the withdrawls were over with. He was scared of street drugs, but, he didn't want to die. He also wanted something that would cover his pain the way Fentanyl did and since that is close, he actually considered it. He must of decided to turn it down because according to a neighbor-buddy of his, he did in fact have the opportunity to obtain the heroin, but, decided not to.

He felt death was a better option. It disgusts me. He was told that if he EVER made mention of that again, even just saying "I would rather die because Im hurting so bad" he was threatened with being put into an institution for observation which would only increase his pain, anxiety and then he feared losing his home if he was locked away too long. In the end, he felt that the ultimate punishment (being locked away for expressinghis emotions) would come true and he knew in there, he would be forced to lay there, suffer from his very real physical pain, where a bunch of Psychiatrists determine whether or not he is a risk to harming himself. That's horrible. He was not psychotic nor a manic depressive. He was in EXCRUCIATING PAIN (which could have been prevented a great great deal) and he didn't want to be punished for it.

Now back to my original point......the planes. The boats. CONTINUED:

easy.does.it.genovese
easy.does.it.genovese

They knew in advance this would be the end result. That is what they wanted in my opinion.

People get desperate and keep the illegal narcotic business BOOMING! The mass suicides are "casualtys".

The other person who committed suicide for the same reason minus that deep deep withdrawl. According to her, her withdrawls her bad, but nothing like what he experienced. His were not only physical, it was emotional and psychological. Also, had EITHER one of them "stopped taking their medications abruptly" that would have been a violation of their "pain ultimatum". Its called a "pain contract" but we know what a contract actually is. A contract is "A contract is an agreement having a lawful object entered into voluntarily by two or more parties, each of whom intends to create one or more legal obligations between them"....that is NOT a contract they entered. That was an ultimatum. An ultimatum given to them by their Doctors either because its the general policy or once the FDA and DEA crackdown. Whatever the reason was, it still is NOT an actual "contract". That is just a softer word for what it really is.

So this ultamatium was given to them by their Doctors, yanno, the people who prescribed their medications and act as if they were doing them a "favor" and they should be "gratefull" and indebted to them? Yea, those Doctors. No no no! They were not "treating them"! It was a "favor"! (This "favor" would and could be SNATCHED at any given moment and was constantly hung over their heads for even the slightest of complaints when staff goofed in paperwork, charting,etc)The Doctors with staff that ALL have the same outlook on things........"Regardless if we make a mistake and are at fault for anything that you would otherwise be in trouble for, we're exempt. When he make a mistake, don't you DARE call us out on it and YOU (the patient) must take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for our mistake. If you gripe, cry, or have a grievance, or anything that even resembles a complaint, legitimate or not, we will REMIND YOU that we are doing YOU A "FAVOR" by even prescribing you meds that help you with your suffering in the first place"! "You must kiss our ass, walk on eggshells and say "yes master and no master" to acknowledge you understand.

RyanDeLena
RyanDeLena

And just to add... My amazing quality of life is living in never ending horrific agony and living night and day laying on my couch barely ever able to get up and burning my back with a heating pad unfortunatley because i need to be on it 24/7 for any relief.. And that was before these added restrictions but now due to them my pain has increased 10 fold

RyanDeLena
RyanDeLena

I have severe cronic back and neck pain from being hot by an SUV about 13 years ago and now i am being refused of my very much needed pain meds which where just barely reducing my constant suffering but it atleast kept me from hoping to not wake up each day because of the pain i must endure, but now with all this government over reaching and attacks on pain meds i get much MUCH less then the bare minimum i need to just SURVIVE each day. And all these new laws do is affect to people who really need these meds. As with prohibition in the early 1900's has shown, this only allows the ones abusing and illegally selling these meds to get more sales and now that people cant get what they need heroin overdoses have sky rocketed, i guess a massive rise in heroin related deaths are much better than the chance of risk of someone just being addicted to painkillers or at least thats what it seems like our amazing leaders seem to think. So please we need to start acting the way our fore fathers would and stop being complacent with these government problems and start doing as they did and STAND UP AND DEMAND A REAL CHANGE AT HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ITS TIME WE FIX WHAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN IGNORING THESE LAST FEW YEARS... DEMAND A CHANGE IN THESE RIDICULOUS , IMPROPER AND ALMOST IMMORAL POLICIES THAT ATTACK THE PEOPLE THEY CLAIM TO HELP WHILE DOING NOTHING TO STOP THE PEOPLE THEY CLAIM TO BE GOING AFTER PLEASE STAND UP for our rights as AMERICANS and our right to have some quality of life and not have to suffer every moment of our lives because of the deeds of others.

billmartin
billmartin

if you are so worried about drugs how about stopping the tons of drugs that come across the Mexican boarder or maybe not because you are forcing many law abiding suffering people to get relief some where else bet the Pharmaceutical company's will love that.Its always about the money how about a law  about alcohol  and cigarets how many deaths do they cause people are allowed to take them but the gov gets TAX MONEY so its OK I didn't ask to be disabled and you are making our lives more of a night mare thanks a lot o by the way are any of the people who signed this bill in chronic pain  maybe you should ask what its like to suffer ever day

billmartin
billmartin

WTF im sick of the fda going places they dont know anything about.I have been taking Vicodin for 10 years for back pain my life would end . I have had 2 orthopedic drs plus two gps tell me there is nothing they can do for me.I never run out early and i am sick of people who don't know what its like for those of us who need a pain killer ever 4 hours I wake up every night after the pills wear off take them and sit in a chair till they start to work and fall a sleep,And im also sick of the media demonizing us as addicts as well as the family members i am dependent yes for the pain relief yes and i also am dependent on 5 pills i take for my heart will those a holes at the fda pick on them next.what kind of people run the fda they don't seem too smart to me  if we band together maybe they will pull there heads out of their a--     if you agree send me some thing on face book    billy martin      e -mail billy12834@hotmail.com god and thanks godbless

KobatoAozora
KobatoAozora

This is disturbing and this will NOT solve drug addiction by people who do not have chronic pain. This will actually increase the number of suicide deaths - of people who suffer chronic pain. Is that what our government want? This issue should not be dealt by people who do not suffer from chronic pain. I suffer from fibromyalgia and I need my pain medication to be able to function - to work and do simple daily activities. I would be disabled and bed-ridden without the pain med and I would consider suicide.

Junior'sGhost
Junior'sGhost

@NicoleM  Just signed the petition. Thank you very much. I have a condition where my Achilles tendons in both feet are calcifying at the heels. I work on my feet all day. The pain can no longer be controlled by OTC meds and nobody will prescribe me anything stronger than Relafen. The surgery would be covered by my workplace. But since AFLAC views this as a preexisting condition, surgery would mean four or six or even eight months of not paying the mortgage the car payments, food, and on and on and on.

I'm not an addict, I took Vicodin after neck fusion surgery in 2005 with no ill affects. I just want to be treated with dignity. NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO SUFFER SEVERE PAIN NEEDLESSLY.

LyndaStiffler-Furgason
LyndaStiffler-Furgason

I have been and still studing on this issue. I see to many people suffering over the drug seekers. Example I moved back to Indiana. I have suffered with a disability of crippling anxiety. After being refused medication to maintain control of my health. I had to call 911 with BP 190/110. Its bad when u have to tell your family just how to place lawsuit on for my death Im ready to fight this matter to the end. So all I see is Dr ins cost going up. New specialist that most people cant AFFORD. And the CRIME RATE GOING UP. WE CAN SET UP IV DRUG USERS UP WITH A GO TO THE CORNER BUS.GET THE DRUGS AND CLEAN NEEDLESS. AND CRIME DROPPED. SMART MOVE YES. WHAT DO THEY EXPECT TO HAPPEN WITH THIS ISSUE. THE DIFFERECE IS DOCTORS BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR OTHERS ACTIONS. GIVE THE DRUG SEEKERS A BUS ON THE CORNER AND LEAVE THE TRUE PATIENTS OF NEED ALONE. WHY IS THERE NO COUNT OF OVERDOSES IN THE ALLEY. IS ALL ABOUT $$$ AND NOW THEY CAN WASH THERE HANDS OF SOMEONE ELSE'S ACTIONS.

downhearted
downhearted

@jnb19832002 I just found this page. I have been forced to a pain clinic, I have not gone yet.  I was wondering if you have found out anything we, the patients, can do?

backpain
backpain

@jnb19832002 my wife and i both have severe backpain we had surgeries they cant help us now i moved to indiana they passed tough law on painkillers its not fair to people like us to suffer

shuckaluca5
shuckaluca5

@AdultsShouldTreatOwnPain addiction is addiction I was addicted to vicodin ,people have pain I get it. there are drugs that can kill pain just as well as narcotics. don't tell me narcotics is the only treatment. I will tell you I have chronic pain and then got addicted to narcotics now I have two problems. the addiction is under control finally. but an addiction is an addiction the only difference is the withdrwal affects are worse on some as versus others we as a nation country are destroying life with narcotics. we need more stronger laws on doctors handing out this damn poison like candy. to way out pain meds as an option due to lack of insurance. to fix the cause of pain because narcotics is a quick fix and cheaper is stupid. personally it cost 15000 dollars for drug rehab 30 days usally the addict needs the program two three times. the crimes commited to get drugs for the habbit cost tax payers. so please don't give me that boohoo story about insurance. people don't have insurance because they are uneducated losers. they expect society to pay do to there bad choices they made as kids. they don't go on to college and learn a career to become gainfull in society. why would I insure a employee and pay them more than minimum wage when they are only smart enough to barely count money, no medical insurance is lack of  education having something to offer a company. maybe I am sounding harsh. but nacotics is not the answer to pain or lack of insurance.and medical technology has drugs just as effective for pain without the narcotic getting people addicted. they like the high from the drug its that simple that's what people are looking for not pain relief.

djsthrift
djsthrift

@katkalkofen   Spoken like a person with health insurance. I pay out of pocket, I live in Alabama where they refused to expand the care for lower income residents. I sign on to the "Obamacare" site and don't even get to SEE these plans they offer because my income puts me in the bracket that SHOULD allow me care through the medicaid expansion, SIt there on your high horse and feel smug. Go on, My doctors visits at 4 a year plus the out of pocket costs for those urine tests PLUS the cost of the blood tests PLUS the cost of the meds makes it so I can barely afford food. Now I face this debilitating pain without meds.  Don't you dare complain when I jump off a bridge and YOUR tax dollars have to support my kids. Dear God do people not understand that some of us are in trouble with this new scheduling???

shuckaluca5
shuckaluca5

@katkalkofen that's how I got addicted no intent. but then instead of helping me when I told doctor. he could no longer see me.i was a liability so now you see this is why law is changing. blame the doctors. not just the addicts.as they say .  there always a rotten in every basket. its the bad doctors who wrecked it for all. now everydodies scared.

DougAllison
DougAllison

Serena Vandever posted that she was told by more than one doctor that only people with cancer will have access to pain medicine, well I am a stage 4 cancer patient with mantle cell lymphoma and my oncologist refuses to give me any sort of pain medication so cancer patients are being cut off of these medications along with everyone else. I thought the rule. was do no harm.

SerenaVandever
SerenaVandever

@bobmart exactly what ever happened to no one belongs between a patient and a doctor!  and why should they go to medical school at all if the DEA is going to practice medicine!

fdaisstupid
fdaisstupid

@davidj980 that is what i see happening.. People in chronic pain and nobody cares so people will start growing poppies to get pain relief..  Its not human to make people suffer.. this is not the right answer and I see a lot of crime and suicide on the rise as a result of the fda stopping the help of people with chronic pain from getting pain medication.

Katima
Katima

 I so agree with you with regards to the Watson brand Hydrocodone being so radically changed that it actually makes you feel worse! The only way to get proper pain relief is to buy the name brand "Norco" that Watson still makes. Of course insurance wont pay for name brand medications and so we are forced to PAY out the arse for their name brand IF the customer can afford it. But how many people in chronic pain can?  Yup, its all about the money!  Oh and btw... the FDA recently approved the drug called "Zohydro" which is a high dose narcotic painkiller packing five to 10 times more heroin-like narcotic than traditional hydrocodone products such as Vicodin but unlike Vicodin, this new pain medication is without the added over-the-counter pain relievers! That's right... its a pure opioid medication the FDA just approved! So is it any wonder that the stock value for "Zohydro" shot up 50% when the FDA approved it? So perhaps the pharmaceutical cartels are behind making a drug forces people to buy the name brand as much as possible. However I do agree with you that the government  has been in bed with the illegal drug cartels for decades as well. Anyway, thanks for sharing your opinion as you and the rest of the folks posting here are spot on correct!

painful
painful

@alfredbjam   What do you mean?  Doing what to our drugs?  can you explain in more detail or send a link?

Karen5683
Karen5683

@KobatoAozora I feel the same as you.  I take hydrocodone 7.5/500 for Myofascial disease, migraines, and two bulding disc in my neck.  Without them, I couldn't work.  I have tried every other non-opiod medication, which are almost always neuro type meds -  and they all keep me so drugged up that I can't work.  This is the only medication that allows me to work and have a more "normal" life.  Without it, I would be on the couch all day - I would have to go on disability, and the pain would be so out of control that I wouldn't want to live.  Suicide is such a scary word - but my life wouldn't be worth living if I was hurting all of the time.  I am tired of addicts making it harder for people who suffer with chronic pain.  I am also tired of because of the addiction issues of others, I am made to feel guilty about something I need to help with pain.  Suicide......If they restrict my pain meds life won't be worth it.  I wish I could choke the addicts who take it for a high - I don't get a high when I take them, only temporary relief.  God bless you - I will pray for your pain relief. I hope you can pray for mine. 

GNC1960
GNC1960

@shuckaluca5 @AdultsShouldTreatOwnPain  OMG YOU ARE AN IDIOT WAS THAT YOUR MAJOR YOU MAKE NO SENSE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE DRUG ADDICTS NO MATTER WHAT, HAS BEEN FOR CENTURIES. STATISICALLY ONLY 1-10 % OF PATIENTS PRESCRIBED THESE MEDICATIONS WILL BECOME ADDICTED AND THAT IS ACCORDING TO FDA. I LOST MY INSURANCE YEARS AGO FOR A TIME I WAS PRESCRIBED  OPIATES WHICH I  COULD NOT AFFORD  SO HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO KEEP WORKING TWO JOBS WHILE ATTENDING COLLEGE AND RAISING THREE KIDS AS A SINGLE MOTHER I DID NOT  HAVE  ONE SINGLE SOLITARY WITHDRAWL SYMPTOM NONE. I GUESS YOU ARE ONE OF THE 1-10% WHO BECAME ADDICTED MAYBE YOUR PREDISPOSED TO ADDICTION YOU KNOW LIKE AN ADDICTIVE PERSONALITY, MAYBE YOU MISUSED YOUR MEDICATION, I CAN ONLY SPECULATE LIKE YOU ARE. I NOW HAVE BEEN DIAGNOISED WITH PROGRESSIVE MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS, WHICH ACCORDING TO MY NEUROLOGISTS WHO OBVIOULY IS HIGHLY EDUCATED WHO MAY  VIEW  YOU AS UNDER  EDUCATED LIKE YOU DO EVERYONE ELSE. I HAVE HAD FOR SEVERAL  YEARS ACCORDING TO MRI AT LEAST (15)YRS AND BECAUSE OF  ALL THE BRAIN LESIONS I HAVE, WHICH NOW HAS EXASBERATED MY MULTI LEVEL SPONDYLOSIS AND EFFECTED MY SPINAL CORD TO A LEVEL YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT OR WONT UNDERSTAND. PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHRONIC PAIN AND I AM TALKING YEARS. DO NOT DESERVE TO BE TREATED WORSE THAN AN ANIMAL WE EUTHANIZE THEM SO THEY DONT SUFFER. MAYBE THE GOVERNMENT HOPES WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE THE EXCRUCIATING PAIN WHICH BRINGS ON SEVERE DEPRESSION AND END IT ALL. I DO NOT DO HOME INVASIONS OR ROB PHARMACIES OR ANY OTHER CRIME TO GET MEDICATIONS BUT THE ADDICTED DO. I ACTUALLY VIEW PEOPLE WHO BECOME ADDICTED AS WEAK MINDED BECAUSE ALOT OF ADDICTIONS ARE PSYCHOLOGIC NOT PHYSICAL. SO YOU SIT THERE AND KEEP SPEWING TO US WITH SEVERE CHRONIC PAIN HOW YOU WERE AN ADDICT AND YOU COULDNT CONTROL YOURSELF BUT YOU LACK OF SELF CONTROL ISNT MY PROBLEM YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE USING YOUR ADDICTION TO SAY THINGS YOU OBVIOUSLY ARENT EDUCATED ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND....

shuckaluca5
shuckaluca5

@djsthrift @katkalkofen perhaps you should further your education. to get a decent job where you could live like a human being. and would not be low income. I make 126000 a year and its a struggle but I want my kids to succeed. a lot insurance problem is due to lack of having skills to offer a employer.to make it worth them insuring you. an employer needs you to be able to do more than sweep a floor. you get what you put in life. what you can offer a employee. become a doctor,  lawyer, nurse and education that's the key. you can do it I mean apply yourself. I did and they said I was not college material. that pissed me off. so I worked even harder.now 126000 still aint a lot but I have benefits also that's what you need. you shouldn't need to be concerned about insurance with the right education.

fdaisstupid
fdaisstupid

@painful @alfredbjam the fda has just taken hydrocodene or oxycontin, etc drugs out of the doctors hands.  There gameplan is to take away from doctors so that it will not get in the wrong hands of recrational users and them kill themselves, so as a result, people with chronic pain will just have to be in pain..  It is totally stupid.. Why not just kill us when we are diagnosed with chronic pain and spare us all this crap because they can not control the people that want to use this recreationally.  Why would anyone want to be under this bondage..  The only reason is so that they can funcion in this demanding society but now we don't stand a chance because we will be in terrible pain for the rest of our lives.. Just google fda changing pain medications to a schedule two and make it impossible financially for someone to get pain relief that they are not wanting to be on but it allows them to fit in this demanding society..  It sickens me to a point that I can not even type and make sense of it.. 

shuckaluca5
shuckaluca5

@Karen5683 @KobatoAozora because you are addicted get help I have been there you need help and that is not anything wrong with needing help. there are ways to treat the pain you need to find the correct doctor . addiction is only giving you another problem on top of your current problems. one day you will see this I just hope it doesn't result in your death from you getting where you give up on life. this happens. and you seem like you are getting to that point.  I feel for you but there is treatment to help you with your pain. but how you think I got addicted like you pain. but then I had two problems. I finally told the doctor I was near suicide. a head shrink got me a good doctor between the two doctors the pain is controlled without  narcotics. and my addiction is cured. there are still days of pain but  through therapy I learned how to live a good life. pain is not good. but neither is addiction. not all addicts chose that a lot of addicts suffer as you from pain. the everyday narcotics for pain will cause addiction. this is what the state and feds know. they want to save your life from getting addicted to drugs. I think you don't realize it but you may already be addicted due to doctors wanting a quick fix. if they cured your pain the doctor would lose a patient. money . so we give you narcotics, and keep you coming back for more money. not all doctors but most just do temp fix drugs. the state and feds want doctors to cure the pain not bandage it for profit creating addicts. and no I don't work for state or government. but I read a lot and this is what they want stopping quick fixing methods for profit. causing addiction.

Jumpstart
Jumpstart

@shuckaluca5 @djsthrift @katkalkofen When a person over the age of 50 has sever legitimate pain you tell me how is one suppose to work.  These days no employer wants to hire anyone over the age of 50.  Look at Walmart their employees are on food stamps because they are forced to work part time. 

I have worked since I was 17 years old. At 48 started to have sever back pain which the condition I have I was born with,  So give me a break who can afford an education to become a Doctor who is in pain 24/7 and no one will loan you the money for an education.