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The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) says it’s “in the best interests” of the children.

The influential group of pediatricians released a policy statement in support of same-sex parents’ right to wed as well as to foster or adopt children. The policy was guided by the organization’s belief in gay marriage “to promote optimal health and well-being of all children.”

“We know enough about child development that we can say that children are nurtured when they have two loving, supportive, committed-to-each-other adults to take care of them,” says Dr. Ben Siegel, a professor of pediatrics and psychiatry at Boston University School of Medicine and a co-author of the policy statement. ”Kids growing up with two same-sex parents are as normally developed as the rest of the population.”

MORE: Do Children of Same-Sex Parents Really Fare Worse?

About 2 million children are raised in the U.S. by same-sex parents, according to the statement. The policy evolved from two previous positions of the Academy in support of adoption by same-sex couples. The AAP has also previously stated that the data don’t support any negative impact of a parent’s same-sex orientation on children’s emotional and behavioral development.

According to the statement, which notes that married people have a groundswell of legal, economic and social support:

Scientific evidence affirms that children have similar developmental and emotional needs and receive similar parenting whether they are raised by parents of the same or different genders. If a child has 2 living and capable parents who choose to create a permanent bond by way of civil marriage, it is in the best interests of their child(ren) that legal and social institutions allow and support them to do so, irrespective of their sexual orientation.

Is it unusual that the 60,000 pediatricians who comprise the AAP are wading into politics? “Our goal is to support the best interests of children,” says Siegel. “If people understand that as political, so be it. Our politics is what’s best for children.”

MORE: Study: Children of Lesbians May Do Better than Their Peers

The timing of the report — published as the Supreme Court is considering the legality of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), which prohibits the federal government from recognizing same-sex unions in states that allow them — is sheer coincidence, says Siegel. The committee has been reviewing hundreds of studies for more than five years in preparation for the statement and the accompanying in-depth report .

Not all of those studies have been conclusive as far as the developmental and health benefits of children raised in same-sex households. While many showed that children raised by gay parents were no more likely to experience behavioral or mental health issues than those raised by moms and dads in a heterosexual relationship, one much-publicized study, the New Families Structure Study (NFSS) by University of Texas sociologist Mark Regnerus, found that children raised by gay parents were more likely than those raised in a heterosexual household to require therapy for depression or anxiety, and less likely to have a formal education or a full time job. The results have since been criticized, including by experts from the AAP, which noted that Regnerus defined gay parents as anyone who had had a same-sex relationship at one point in their lives. Rather that tracking children raised in households by parents in a stable gay relationship, many argued, the study, which took place at a time when gay unions were not as accepted legally or socially, instead documented the effects of the broken homes that resulted when gay parents left their initial, heterosexual relationships.

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In writing about the study at the time, Healthland’s Belinda Luscombe, also noted the more disturbing message in the results:

The vituperativeness of the debate, while entertaining, does seem to obscure the one glaringly obvious fact emerging from the NFSS: that many American families are unstable, for reasons to do much more with poverty, health and education than sexuality. And that instability clouds American children’s future. Could we maybe get back to that?

Good question. Perhaps, with the nation’s pediatricians strongly supporting the fact that sexual preference is not a deterrent to good parenting, we can start to focus on what’s really contributing to the instability of the American family.

79 comments
JamesGuentner
JamesGuentner

Homosexuality is normal and it is a biological variable.

ThorgoodSmith
ThorgoodSmith

Behaviorally, homosexuality represents a high level of discord beginning with public bathrooms that are separated by gender to eliminate sexual attraction are now in a state of chaos when it's not just the opposites attracted to one another.  Consider the objections of couple subject to a “pat down” by a gay policeman.  Then there’s depression resulting from rejection by a majority of the population who oppose homosexually, amplified when impressionable children are exposed to a lifestyle parents disagree with, recognizes how it terminates family legacies and learns that it results in increased health care costs and a shortened life span.

On a biological level, homosexuality is dysfunctional, not just that it ignores that life is sexually transmitted, but it introduces human waste into the reproduction system which is scientifically reprehensible.  

Theologically, homosexuality is contrary to several the teachings in the Bible resulting in the gay community moving towards atheism as it conflicts with their hedonistic lifestyle.  Scripturally it begins in Genesis with the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.  Then again, consider His grace reflected in I Corinthians 6::9 “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals,10 thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive, and swindlers will not inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Some of you once lived this way. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.”

deetwil
deetwil

'Human beings make their society, which in turn makes them'- is a line by Karl Marx in his study of the Society and Sociological themes.

The research should be extended to include the simple truth and dominant possibility that these innocent minds/tabular-rasa, could be influenced to adopt the culture of it's immediate society and first influence, the family/home. Then gradually it might be a world of dammed dwindling human race.


Humans have many tastes, desires and inclinations; and capable of practising whatever they think of be it destructive or profiting. In our societies- local and global, we acknowledge that some-things are wrong, hence some of the desires/tastes. Those tastes that are right and generally acceptable are most often encouraged by creating a system of governance that endorses them, while the erroneous ones encouraged to die-off by similar measures. But, a society whose system of governance endorses/encourages erroneous tastes and inclinations to be expressed, teaches it's members to go more sickly with such desires.

We should not legalize anomalies and behavioural patterns that could be termed as 'an ailment', or 'erroneous';we should rather discourage them so that more people won't practice such.


On a fair note, it is awry to let individuals who do not have regard for a process and value, nor uphold its tenets, to reap from the results of such values. So, people who do not regard reproduction should not be hastily given the legal power to take it's offspring. It is a sensitive injustice to the infants who are yet without knowledge.

Phaeda
Phaeda

That's a very hasty decision on such a very impotant issue. The findings are based on a very shot study and we cannot take them seriously.

Children have to be taken much-much more seriously, they are not toys to play with.

karLcx
karLcx

considering AAP's pro-genital mutilation stance, i don't think they're in any position to be giving advice on "optimal health and well-being" of children.  that said, credit where credit's due on this policy. it's a step forward.

DaneMuhlig
DaneMuhlig

God's Word is 100 perfectly clear.  It says Gay,
Homosexuality and Lesbianism is sin and Gays,
Homosexuals and Lesbians will not go to Heaven
...they will go to Hell. Read 1 Cor.6:9,10/Rev.21:8.
[Don't get mad at me...God said it, not me].

God's Word calls homosexuality degrading of the
body, shameful, indecent and perversion!!
Read Romans 1:24-32. Degrading! Shameful!
Indecent! perversion! [Not very "sweet" huh?]

"Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave
themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They
serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment
of Eternal Fire." Jude 7. The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah
was homosexuality! According to God Gays, Homosexuals
and Lesbians are going to suffer the punishment of Eternal
Fire!! [Ouch! Bring a lot of suntan lotion! Ha!].

Jesus condemned homosexuality when speaking about
"sexual immorality" in Mk.7:21-23. This word sexual
immorality means, illicit [immoral, unethical] sex. Whether
it is prostitution-sex, adultery-sex, incest-sex, LESBIAN-sex
or HOMOSEXUALITY-sex. Jesus said sexual immorality
including homosexuality makes a man "unclean, defiled
and polluted!" Mk.7:23. [They are spiritually dirty! Yuk!].

RickHall
RickHall

@delder Younger people are much more accepting of people than people of your generation, so that should not be a problem. Quit grasping for straws. And no can "choose" to be gay. Grow up.

Enigmaideas
Enigmaideas

The large explosion in same sex couples is a relatively new phenomenon (although homosexual behavior itself is older than our species) and as such this hasty decision does not have enough scientific data to decisively conclude that same sex parents can be considered in equal value in comparison to heterosexual couples when raising children. A few studies on the matter of perhaps one generation, over such a short span of human history is not scientifically valid when measured against the next few hundred years of human social interactions. As such is the case the only conclusion that I can see is that this academy of pediatrics is not being guided by valid and time tested scientific methodology. As this appears to be the case their support as a supposedly trustworthy source of  information is suspect. It is not the role of science to publish hasty judgements simply because it happens to be a contentious issue which has grown in popularity. Indeed science should not seek to be a part of any crowd. I suppose this just yet another example of science being perverted by ideological extremism. Let those who wish to fight and scream their opinions at each other do just that. It is unethical to get involved without enough data.

delder
delder

Perhaps these children will receive what they need when they are very young from gay parents but, once they enter school, life is hell for them and once they become teenagers it will get worse. For these reasons, many of these children choose to become gay as well. The gay community is very welcoming to anyone who feels themselves to be misfits or bullied. Then all these people turn to society and paint themselves as victims and ask the world to turn itself upside down to accommodate their feelings.

wrp136
wrp136

.....so much for the "scientific study" bought and paid for by NOM....

keheley80
keheley80

This is not about whether homosexuality is "treatable" or "natural" or whatever.  They are saying that being raised in a same-sex home gives children the same advantages (and disadvantages) as being raised in a heterosexual home.  They are supporting homosexuals being able to adopt and foster children.  Can you honestly say it is better for children to be in some aweful group home (and I know that lots are aweful, from personal experience)?

saggingbellyfat
saggingbellyfat

@ThorgoodSmith The plain fact of the matter is that gays and lesbians are by their very nature perverted deviants and to subject CHILDREN to a "home" (and I use that term loosely) where such filth and perversion is practiced is CHILD ABUSE.

felman87
felman87

@deetwil 

I know, Tabula Rasa is totally legit. We can't let gays raise children. Those kids will turn out to be gay. They should be raised by straight couples because their kids never turn out gay.

RobertMiller
RobertMiller

@deetwil So I guess if there is a couple that are a-sexual they shouldn't be allowed to adopt children because they do not regard reproduction? What about a couple that are sterile and cannot reproduce? What about couples in which one of them had been injured before they could have children and were injured in a way that made reproduction impossible. Should they be denied the option to adopt or foster? There are lots of children who could use loving parents and they most likely do not care if it MF MM FF so long as they feel loved and have what they need. If two gay parents seek to adopt a child you can almost guarantee that they are more likely to be more loving and caring than parents who naturally have the child and see it as a burden, which does happen.

RobertMiller
RobertMiller

@DaneMuhlig And that is why your argument is dismissed. You might as well use Harry Potter or Twilight to make the same argument. The bible written by multiple people, put together by democratic vote by the few people who could barely read at the time, during the bronze age in a time when patriarch and misogyny was the norm. If you want to let the bible dictate your own life that's one thing but to use it to dictate how other people should live is wrong and only justifiable by fascists.

wrp136
wrp136

@DaneMuhlig    Well, my God says just the opposite...and she can beat up your god!

MichelleCruise
MichelleCruise

@DaneMuhlig sorry buddy but imaginary friends who speak through a book written by power hungry men hundreds of years ago dont get a say in the real world

QuieraBannister
QuieraBannister

@DaneMuhlig Luckily for those of us with logical thinking brains, we leave the fairytales and invisible friends to the children, where they belong :) Here's to being an Atheist and not having a POS book telling me to hate people.

samantha2591
samantha2591

@DaneMuhlig Well you keep believing your fairy tales and see how far they get you. I'm sure you'll have fun in "heaven". Judging by your photo you are pretty old so thankfully the world won't have to deal with your small minded rubbish for too much longer. Thank "God". 

saggingbellyfat
saggingbellyfat

@RickHall @delder Religion has nothing to do with this. Nor does morality. Humans are simply primates that evolved like all other animals. No "god" involved.

The issue is societal. Western culture is morphing into something not seen previously in human history. Not necessarily a "bad" thing, but definitely very destructive to human social structure as known to-date.

The dissembling of the nuclear family (mom/dad/kids/extended family members) has been going on for quite some time in the West and now it's accelerating. The gay rights movement is accelerating the acceleration (3rd derivative?)

The ultimate results are unknown, but there is clearly danger to the species at this point. Again, not that there's anything wrong with that. Earth would probably be better-off without humans anyway, but then another primate would simply evolve up & take-over.

samantha2591
samantha2591

@RickHall @delder Well said RickHall. I look forward to the day that my generation is in charge of things and natural selection has taken care of all the ignorant lost causes that seem to get a kick spreading hate on the internet.

saggingbellyfat
saggingbellyfat

@Enigmaideas Science has been hijacked by religion, just as it was in Galileo's time. The religions of today are collectivism and diversity.

MichelleCruise
MichelleCruise

@delder how does the fact that I marry my wife affect you in any way? I have two kids raised in a same sex household who are wonderful caring accepting people.  Life was NOT hell for my kids - in fact my son is very proud of the fact that he has two moms.  You need to get over yourself

jeffrey.davis728
jeffrey.davis728

You must be an awfully fragile person if your world is "turned upside down" when gay people have the same legal rights as straight people. Isn't that YOUR problem, not ours?

saggingbellyfat
saggingbellyfat

@MackyDee1 Just more zionist communist garbage. Same thing that brought us those cancer-scannners at airports. Chertoff made a fortune off them. He's - guess what? - a dual US/Israeli citizen. Disgusting criminals - all of them.

saggingbellyfat
saggingbellyfat

@keheley80 Any kid is better off in a group home - heck, better off living under a bridge - than being forced to live in a "home" where such disgusting evil is going on. Imagine the noises at night. The smells. Revolting.

saggingbellyfat
saggingbellyfat

@felman87 @deetwil It's not about the kids "turning out gay" or not. It's about not exposing them to filth and perversion and mental illness.

saggingbellyfat
saggingbellyfat

@RobertMiller @deetwil Gays can reproduce. They simply refuse to (by refusing to pair-bond with a member of the opposite sex.)

Your comparisons and analogies are logically absurd.

deetwil
deetwil

@RobertMiller @deetwilEvaluate the word 'regard'. It's different from disability. Not being able does not mean you don't desire or regard it, but simply that you tried often and couldn't, but still love it, and would if you get the chance to. The case of same-sex is ironical, pathetic and ridiculous; and the dangerous evil is the high tendency of creating a like of them out of innocent infants. And soon, as one generation ages and passes on there would be no more group to naturally produce more infants for adoption. 

More social crisis, even yet unknown, is sure to erupt from this immorality which we are slow to condemn now. This is an ailment and should be regarded as such, to be treated medically, psychologically, otherwise and even spiritually.- Let's face it and save our society, race and dignity.

DaneMuhlig
DaneMuhlig

@RobertMiller @DaneMuhlig 

and you are drunk on Demons sir Robert! WOW! How blind and ignorant! God's Word is perfectly accurate and was given by inspiration from God! So we are to believe YOU?????? HA! HA! HA! HA! And not God's Word! Not a historical Jesus with 5oo eye witnesses to his resurrection! Did you say you live in Disneyland with Mickey Mouse?" with all respect

DaneMuhlig
DaneMuhlig

@wrp136 @DaneMuhlig  

Well your "god" must be satan and Jesus beat the Hell out of him when he rose form the grave! OOOOOOOOOWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your "god" is a wimp! And has ZERO power! My rocks the globe, raised dead, rips miracles and gives real love! OOOOOOOOW!

DaneMuhlig
DaneMuhlig

@MichelleCruise @DaneMuhlig  

Ha! Satan totally owns you  and has mad you drunk on his lies! Wake up "Buddy" God rules and your knees are going to bow before him! Jesus is a historical fact! Wake up and seek him so your life does not keep sucking! with respect, Dane

PS God will always rock and won...Satan and his captives will always lose! Oooooouch!

DaneMuhlig
DaneMuhlig

@QuieraBannister @DaneMuhlig  

Ha! The joke is on you! Bible says the Fool says in his heart there is no God! And Creation testifies to a God. Leaving you WITHOUT excuse! Sorry! judgment Day will come and you'll be standing in your underwear whimpering! How Satan has fairy taled you is pathetic. And I love Gays...they are welcome in my home...then I will tell them the truth to set them free...that is love! Learn it! with humility, Dane

DaneMuhlig
DaneMuhlig

@samantha2591 @DaneMuhlig  

Believing God has gotten me to change nations, feed millions of poor, see tons of miracles! Ha! Ha! on you Dear Loser! How Satan has totally enslaved you and made you his puppet! Find your knees. And judging by your pic have you gotten out of puberty yet! Ha! I'm just warming up! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!

FoRealHomo
FoRealHomo

 @saggingbellyfat This has to be a joke when 'sagging belly fat' is commenting on the 'noises' and 'smells' at night in a homosexual parent household. Haha!

MichelleCruise
MichelleCruise

@saggingbellyfat @keheley80 You are totally right Keheley :) group homes are horrible places for children to live.

bellyfat seems to have too much fat on the brain - perhaps you should go live under a bridge after all isnt that where trolls like you belong?

samantha2591
samantha2591

@saggingbellyfat I pity you. And I pity the world because you exist in it. Somebodies sexual preference holds no impact on how they measure up as a parent. Being homosexual doesn't guarantee you will be a bad parent any more than it guarantees you'd be a fantastic one.  I would rather have a child adopted into a loving and supportive family with parents of the same gender than sent in to your household, in which in doubt they would be force fed Krispy Kremes with a side dish of steaming hot ignorance. The world will be a better place when overweight and undereducated people like yourself start to attack people based on a a part of them which they cannot change. 

IrishinToronto
IrishinToronto

straight people don't make noise when they have sex? interesting.  FYI, the only noises in my home at night are the dog snoring.

saggingbellyfat
saggingbellyfat

@RobertMiller Oh I pray every single day to Jesus to wipe the earth of the homosexual menace. Lord God, please send a plague to incinerate this group of demons made flesh and LORD God I pray in the name of Christ Himself that You protect our innocent Children from those freaks would lick and suck their way through life, contaminating everyone and everything they encounter, like a vast swarm of ravenous locusts. Amen and amen.

RobertMiller
RobertMiller

@saggingbellyfat @felman87 @deetwil have any of you ever read the studies or know anybody who's parents are gay? Or have you ever studies human sexuality outside of your high school health class? I will ignore deetwil's first reply to me and focus the later two. Sexual orientation is not influenced by the parents sexuality. Sexual orientation and gender(not physical sex but mental sex or sexual identity) are characteristics we are born with that we don't usually find out until the onset of puberty(sometimes earlier) and it is chemical, not based in choice. falman87, I believe your comment is sarcasm but just in case others don't see it I will re-iterate the point. Sexual orientation is something you are born with and not something that can be influenced. 

Human sexuality is not filth, perversion, or a mental illness. The only mental illness and perversion related to human sexuality are from those who see something wrong with it and worry about what other people do with their own lives, especially when the other people don't adhere to a specific dogma. More children are exposed to filth and perversion by people who see filth and perversion where there is none. That is a delusion. Delusions are caused by mental illness or cult like thinking meaning that those who have a problem with something that has no evidence of negative effects on children are the ones who have the mental illness. 


DaneMuhlig
DaneMuhlig

@RobertMiller@DaneMuhlig "For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight."It is clear your logic is bent by Demonic influence. Your heart is hard. And if you were honest you would admit your life is full of bondages [I heared God's Spirit say that].

Proof"Biblical eyewitnesses...Proof:Biblical Historians...Proof:Historians outside the Bible writing about Christ...Proof:clost o 100 Prophecies fulfilled by Christ...Proof: the validity and accuracy and infallibility of the Bible. Proof: Historical accuracy of the Bible...Proof:Miracles in the Bible...Proof: Modern day miracles [I have witnessed thousands of them. I saw a deaf and mute person healed. I saw a man raised form the dead, etc,etc,etc,...Proof:the love that would cause God to send his son to die for a messed up world and a confused person like you! with respect,

RobertMiller
RobertMiller

@DaneMuhlig @RobertMiller 

It's hard to be anything with demons when you don't believe in them. I would say that you were the blind and ignorant one. Your "God's word" is actually the words of men written in a book. Prove me otherwise.  Just because a book says it's "God's word" doesn't mean that it is. It would be no different than if I wrote a fictitious book and said that it was true. Would you consider it true? It's circular logic which is a fallacy - "The bible is true because the bible says it's true". Plus, what about those people who have killed others because they thought God told them to? The mother that killed her 3 children because God told her to is equivalent to suicide bombers and people who are willing to fly planes into building. There is a psychological diagnosis for people who audibly hear voices, any voice including the voice of deities, usually the diagnosis is schizophrenia or some other delusional psychological condition. How come we don't apply the same conditions to the people in the past? The historicity of Jesus is debatable and not absolute, add to that the claims about Jesus's divinity and magical abilities. 500 witnesses? You'd figure there would be more written about Jesus from that time if that many people saw him, instead we have one book that is questionable about its accuracy of history. On top of that, calling the bible accurate is ridiculous at best because of all the contradictions and violations of physical laws as well as the major lack of evidence. I didn't say where I lived, although Florida wouldn't be too bad of a place to live outside of the hurricanes, actually I live in a state futher north where the weather never seems to make up its mind. 

Now here is where this comment goes back to the content of the article. In the United States we have a constitution and in that constitution there are amendments. The most important amendment relevant to the issue at hand is the first amendment. The first amendment has a separation clause in it "congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion; or prohibit the free exercise thereof..." (or something like that). There is also another amendment that deals with the issue of discrimination which also plays a part in dealing with marriage. The first amendment requires that reasons for banning something not be based in religious beliefs and the other amendment also requires that we not ban people from getting or doing something because they have different characteristics like sex, ethnicity(race), religion, and so on. So any ruling on the issue of same sex marriage must not violate those amendments unless there is a logical reason where allowing that causes harm to the general public, and it doesn't. When it comes to same sex couples raising children, there is no statistical data that shows that children raised by homosexual(same sex) parents are any different than children that are raised by opposite sex parents. The only difference that can be inferred is that the children are more accepting and understanding of homosexuals and that can be attributed to having same sex parents and those parents not teaching their children to hate people who are different. 

So, you can have your own beliefs, and they are subject to criticism by others. However, even as a majority of the nation, cannot force your beliefs onto others by creating laws based on your beliefs. We also cannot create laws that discriminate based on benign characteristics. Believe me or not, my credibility should be based on my arguments and not my unknown credentials. If my arguments are cogent and logically valid then they should be considered based on that.

DaneMuhlig
DaneMuhlig

@QuieraBannister @DaneMuhlig  

Yeah you are right...my brains were dirty and needed washing! Ha! Too bad your brains are still filthy dirty! My invisible God opens blind eyes [I have seen that a number of times]...and he raises the dead [I saw that too] and he radically rips the darkness out of people like you and sets them FREE! [I have seen him do that to close to a million people]. And this invisible God is a billion times stronger and miraculous than whatever wimpy god or self you serve! Oouch! And your ignorance shows about thinking God is a sweet little gay hippi...this is what Jesus said, "You snakes! You vipers! How will you escape being damned to Hell." [Mt.23:33]. And you are twisted about what real love is...real love tell the truth to people so they can be set free! You would say, "I love you" to a man driving off a cliff. That is hate! I would say, STOP!!!! STOP!!!!!" That is love! Real love my friend! And I love you! With respect, Dane

felman87
felman87

@DaneMuhlig @QuieraBannister 

Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. 
They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Matthew 5:22 
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.

Sounds like The Bible is condemning itself to hell fire. 

QuieraBannister
QuieraBannister

@DaneMuhlig Wow, someone did a really good job of brainwashing you. It's times like these when I see ignorant, brainwashed, little sheep like you following an invisible make believe character and holding onto a book written by crazy men that I am so very thankful I wasn't forced into a religious upbringing to end up like you. I would much rather be this person, who doesn't need a book to tell me how to behave and what is right and instead rely on my own MORALS and KINDNESS. You go ahead and throw out those judgements and tell people that they aren't worthy your entire life and we'll see where that gets you, because I'm pretty sure that your jesus wouldn't appreciate that very much. Funny to me that so many Christians seem to forget that jesus preached about loving everyone and turning the other cheek, not spewing hatred and unkindness and leaving people you don't agree with in the dirt. I live much more like your jesus and your god want you to than you ever will because I can love people and welcome people without judgement. I don't have a book telling me to hate or to not understand others. I choose to like or not like people based on their morality and their kindness to others and who they are as a person, not what some idiot wrote in a book thousands of years ago. So I think I'm doing pretty well, thanks. You keep on judging and I'll keep on loving and we'll see who your god loves more at those gates that you so believe in. I'd be willing to bet it isn't you ;)

RobertMiller
RobertMiller

@DaneMuhlig @samantha2591 Yep and God has also made you a hateful person when your beliefs are critiqued because of their inconsistency and irrelevancy to the issues. The story of Satan and God are simply a way of scaring people into submission. The whole idea of God is that we are just subjects to worship this God just because it is God. And anybody who actually reads that bible would eventually realize that the Abrahamic God is not worthy of being worshiped.

saggingbellyfat
saggingbellyfat

@wrp136 @saggingbellyfat @MackyDee1 Chertoff also co-authored the Patriot Act, which Congresscum had 20 minutes to read (300 page law) before voting on it. Woe to any that voted 'nay' on the nazi law.

It allows FBI agents to write their own search warrants - and charge the recipient (usually employees of telecoms, ISPs, banks, libraries etc) with a felony if they tell anyone about it.

These warrants (sorry, "National Security Letters") are nothing more than the old "general writs of assistance" over which the colonists waged war against King George.


Thanks, Michael Chertoff. I appreciate your public service.

saggingbellyfat
saggingbellyfat

@samantha2591 @saggingbellyfat And why are gays so desperate to ape heterosexual behavior, anyway? Never could figure that one out.

You have your gay bars, your bath houses - you can go do all your evil and nobody bothers you anymore (unfortunately).

Why this desperate need to mirror the trappings of heterosexuality?

saggingbellyfat
saggingbellyfat

@samantha2591 @saggingbellyfat You can't be a parent unless you reproduce. What gays are calling parenthood is the sort of activity that Child Protective Services engage in when they "teach" "parenting."

It is an aping of true parenthood. A monkey-see/monkey-do sort of thing.

Gays are wholly incapable of actual parenting (unless of course they follow nature and reproduce.)

samantha2591
samantha2591

Oh, and that last line was sarcasm in case they didn't teach irony in the Betty Crocker School of How to Be a Fat Imbecile